Comments on: The Return of Table-Based Layout (Well, Sort Of)

By: Manuel Minino

Manuel Minino — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:09:54 +0000

ok.. so…. as i see in the comments this is yet ANOTHER CSS “standard” utopia?? What the hell happens with all you webdesigners???? the people that have the MONEY… the CLIENTS, most of them have IE and a lot have IE6, so… if you’re a kid, playing with “COOL” stuff to see in FF or Safari, ok… spend your time doing css level wathever blah blah… but if you WORK in the real world and want MONEY in your pocket, just work like if everybody have IE6. End of problems. No headaches. No hours and money lost. and yes… sometimes… if needed.. USE TABLES… DUUUH…

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Slightly Nervous » Blog Archive » Links of Interest — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:40:23 +0000

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By: Felipe Giotto

Felipe Giotto — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:57:00 +0000

Hi!

You talked about all my problems, but did not bring a solution!

CSS Tables are great! Unfortunately, I spend most of my time making things right with Internet Explorer 6! IE7 (kind of), FF3, Safari, Opera, all these browsers (almost) never gave me headaches! If IE6 could understand display: table-cell, the world would be so easier!

Felipe Giotto.

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By: Bogdan

Bogdan — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:49:36 +0000

Hey Bob,

No, they wouldn’t be the same thing. You should search for XHTML vs HTML Table based layout to see the differences. They range from the size in kb of each page, to structure or search engine optimization. And the list does not stop here.

You cannot achieve something like CSS Zen Garden with tables and TRs and TDs. The trick in this technique should help in the future some developers that want to achieve the holy grail through CSS.

By: Bob

Bob — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:19:41 +0000

“/* display: table to make the main div be treated by browsers as a table */”

If ths main div will be “treated by browsers as a table”, then wouldn’t that be the same as just using tables? I really don’t see the difference.

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The Return of Table-Based Layout (Well, Sort Of) | CrazyLeaf Design Blog — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:35:49 +0000

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By: Matthew James Taylor

Matthew James Taylor — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 07:20:41 +0000

The problem with laying out websites with tables is you have very little control over the source ordering. In the example given above the sidebar comes before the main content in the HTML source - this is not very good for SEO. This is where divs are far superior - you can move them anywhere and get the source ordering exactly how you need it. See my example of a 3 column liquid layout with equal height columns and 2-1-3 source ordering to see how it's done with pure CSS and no tables. So I think it is safe to say that tables for layout just aren't good enough for today's standards.

By: alex

alex — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:11:14 +0000

come to think of it, does any of Google’s software ever come out of beta?

By: alex

alex — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 01:10:55 +0000

This will be useful when IE 8’s share exceeds 7 and 6. I can’t wait for the day!

Youtube should put a modal window on their page for IE versions ‘Please upgrade your browser for the most optimal viewing experience.’ And if they want they can plug Chrome, once it’s out of beta.